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[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sopranino_saxophone said:Wikipedia[/url]]The most notable use of the sopranino is in the orchestral work Bol?ro by Maurice Ravel. Although Ravel calls for a sopranino saxophone in F, it is unlikely that such an instrument ever existed.
[url=http://www.saxontheweb.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=43321&postcount=18 said:Paul Cohen[/url]]Ravel scored Bolero for a sopranino in F, an instrument that did not and does not exist.
In performances, if the sopranino is used, it is the standard model in the key of Eb, requiring transposing the printed part up a step. As scored, the sopranino solo extends beyond the lower range of the instrument and is picked up by the second saxophonist on soprano, a somewhat awkward and unprecedented (for the piece) transition. Often the sopranino is not used, with the solo fitting beautifully and perfectly on a Bb soprano.
In my performances of Bolero with orchestra, I play the solos on Bb tenor and Bb soprano, then switch to sopranino later in the part when it plays within the orchestra texture.
It is theoretically possible that A. Sax did intend an F sopranino, as he wanted a line of Eb and Bb instruments for marching band and F and C instruments for orchestral work, but as far as I am aware (and have seen), A. Sax never made an F sopranino.[url=http://www.saxontheweb.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=43412&postcount=20 said:Randy Emerick[/url]]Ravel probably took his saxophone information from the Berlioz Treatise on Instrumentation, later revised by Richard Strauss. The range of the soprano and sopranino saxes in these reference books is listed as low B to high D. If this range were in fact the actual range of the soprano and sopranino saxes in Ravel's time, it would have been necessary to use the sopranino.
In fact, the Treatise on Instrumentation was obsolete as far as the saxophone is concerned by the time Ravel wrote the Bolero. The saxophone parts, as Mr. Cohen has pointed out, are perfectly playable on tenor and Bb soprano saxophones by one saxophone player.
Randy, I have one obvious comment: groovy.Groovekiller said:There is a soprano saxophone in C made by Adolphe Sax in a museum in Berlin.
I'm going to quote from my OLD website on Xoom.com:Randy Emerick said:That baritone picture was originally published in Saxophone, Erfindung und Entwicklung einer Musikinstrumenten-Familie und ihre bedeutenden Hersteller (whew!) by Gunter Dullat. The book is not entirely accurate, but since Dullat actually owns the horn, I'm sure he has at least correctly identified the key in which it is pitched. It is the only baritone in F that I know of that still exists, made by 'PELISSON FRERES & Cie., SYSTEME GEORGE BREVETE S.G.D.G.' It was made around 1900, and even though it's not that old, I sure wish I could find one.
And, quoting myself, from SOTW at http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?t=3668:saxpics.com said:Both pics are from French language sites. The first is from one of the several Early Wind Instruments sites (http://www.whc.net/rjones/antiques.html -- this mirror happens to have some English script -- and mis-dates the horn) and the second is from Clarinettes & Saxophones (http://perso.wanadoo.fr/helleringer/index.htm).
A. Sax produced the first saxophone in about 1843: a C bass in the shape of an ophicleide, as the original patent drawings show.
At the very least, this is a highly unusual high-pitch Eb baritone and I'd assume "Systeme George" refers to either the shape or the keywork.a. The owner of this horn has some sort of disease or sickness that has rendered him unable to respond to e-mail for the past three years (if I send him an e-mail, his father responds -- and other posters to his website have gotten the same).
b. Paul Cohen disputes that this is an F baritone and thinks it's probably an Eb high pitch horn (based on both his and my experience that all the other F baris out there are Eb HP horns and are generally older Evette & Schaeffer horns), that's why we've been trying to contact the owner.